14:31:10 #startmeeting Pulp Triage 2020-08-07 14:31:10 #info fao89 has joined triage 14:31:10 !start 14:31:10 Meeting started Fri Aug 7 14:31:10 2020 UTC. The chair is fao89. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:31:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:31:10 The meeting name has been set to 'pulp_triage_2020-08-07' 14:31:10 fao89: fao89 has joined triage 14:31:31 #info daviddavis has joined triage 14:31:31 !here 14:31:32 daviddavis: daviddavis has joined triage 14:31:59 !friday 14:31:59 ♪ It's Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday ♪ 14:32:32 #info ipanova has joined triage 14:32:32 !here 14:32:33 ipanova: ipanova has joined triage 14:32:34 #info ttereshc has joined triage 14:32:34 !here 14:32:34 ttereshc: ttereshc has joined triage 14:32:42 !next 14:32:42 #topic https://pulp.plan.io/issues/7205 14:32:43 fao89: 1 issues left to triage: 7205 14:32:44 RM 7205 - pc - NEW - ClientConnectorSSLError during remote sync with cdn.redhat.com 14:32:45 https://pulp.plan.io/issues/7205 14:33:15 #info ggainey has joined triage 14:33:15 !here 14:33:15 ggainey: ggainey has joined triage 14:33:17 dkliban, I believe you tested it 14:33:59 #info x9c4 has joined triage 14:33:59 !here 14:33:59 x9c4: x9c4 has joined triage 14:34:24 let's skip it, if dkliban tested it, he will update the issue with his observations 14:34:26 #idea Proposed for #7205: close as ???? 14:34:26 !propose other close as ???? 14:34:26 it's been 2 weeks and user hasn't responded yet 14:34:26 fao89: Proposed for #7205: close as ???? 14:34:47 ttereshc: yeah, i was in favor in closing it last time 14:34:48 I'd close as notabug 14:35:16 sure - esp in the absence of any responses 14:35:34 #idea Proposed for #7205: close as notabug 14:35:34 !propose other close as notabug 14:35:34 fao89: Proposed for #7205: close as notabug 14:36:05 #info bmbouter has joined triage 14:36:05 !here 14:36:05 bmbouter: bmbouter has joined triage 14:37:02 #agreed close as notabug 14:37:02 !accept 14:37:02 fao89: Current proposal accepted: close as notabug 14:37:03 fao89: No issues to triage. 14:37:08 Open floor! 14:37:15 https://hackmd.io/SVCMjpwXTfOMqF2OeyyLRw?both 14:37:26 topic: Redmine improvement 14:37:58 oh actually I put it there 14:38:10 problem: Version field is often out of date, users can't specify an appropriate version 14:38:30 Proposal: Stop using Version field 14:38:31 I noticed a user trying to properly fill all the fields and the version one is outdated 14:39:19 the question is whether we should get rid of it at all 14:39:40 or if we want to have pulpcore version + version filed for every plugin 14:39:47 (the majority have it already) 14:39:50 I'm +1 to get rid of it 14:39:57 I am also +1 to getting rid of it 14:40:07 #info dkliban has joined triage 14:40:07 !here 14:40:07 dkliban: dkliban has joined triage 14:40:42 the question I ask each time and each time I forget the answer: what will happen to all the issue where it is set? 14:41:08 I guess it's mostly pulp2 14:41:11 since it is a custom field (not a tag) I believe it will be removed 14:41:17 I'm also ok w/ that 14:41:21 same 14:41:43 +1 to remove it 14:41:54 +1 to remove that field 14:41:57 +1 14:42:02 ok, I'll remove it then 14:42:05 next topic: Any objections to giving ALL users ability to reopen issues? 14:42:09 ttereshc: most likely it will be unset/removed form those issues 14:42:14 * Except CLOSED - COMPLETE, CLOSED - DUPLICATE, and CLOSED - CURRENT RELEASE 14:42:23 no objections 14:42:30 no objections 14:42:30 no objections from me 14:42:41 the only thing about letting anyone reopen, is it lets spammers create logins and open old issues. I don't know that that's really a problem, tho 14:42:53 can anyone see a way that that increases our spam-exposure? 14:43:12 Are we closing or deleting spam issues? 14:43:41 x9c4: I was thinking they'd be able to reopen not-spam-issues and use them to post more spam into 14:44:02 like I said, not sure if that's actually a problem 14:44:21 delete is the plan 14:44:22 in the past we deleted, but for getting data for the script, we start to close some of them 14:44:23 I see. But they can just as well pollute open issues. We have enough of them. ;) 14:44:28 closing doesn't help us because the links are still there ... 14:44:30 spammers can comment on closed issues anyway 14:44:38 I think 14:44:41 agreed 14:44:42 yea no they can 14:44:53 ahh, good point - ok, then I don't have any problems w/the proposal 14:45:07 ok, we can always turn this off again later if they abuse it 14:45:13 sure 14:45:19 next topic: Need more feedback on pulp-dev list about closing issues 14:45:26 this is just an FYI 14:45:28 https://www.redhat.com/archives/pulp-dev/2020-August/msg00017.html 14:46:06 please look by the end of next week or else I am just closing all open issues :) 14:46:14 ha! 14:46:25 is that a threat or a promise, though? :) 14:46:27 daviddavis: haha 14:46:42 I guess a promise. would alleviate all our work 14:47:14 heh 14:47:24 I will reply, ty 14:47:42 next topic: RBAC: call for review - https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/815 14:47:45 generally I think we should close broadly and invite to reopen and not spend too much time on it 14:47:51 bmbouter: agreed 14:48:15 +1 14:48:22 yeah so I just removed the WIP, I see comments on here for review which is great, I'm about to start fixing those and replying to some 14:48:46 the tests were passing, and they are failing w/ flake8 or black, so I'm fixing that now 14:49:27 what I've learned is that the 'admin' user is a superuser ... so while RBAC is going into 3.6 it's not going to make any difference practically for users because we're keeping the labels saying users should only use pulp as a single-user system with 3.6 still 14:49:39 daviddavis: what about all those that we have filed and not users? 14:49:39 which is good because it lowers the risk significantly of this merge 14:50:45 ipanova: I think close broadly (including not looking at who filed it), I believe the current proposal is for pulpcore only 14:50:46 bmbouter, apart from reading the code, should I test it in any way? I guess it would mean to use some mixins and add policies to a plugin? 14:51:28 the question is basically, what are the expectations from a reviewer? 14:51:36 ttereshc: I'd say test the funcationlity coming with the tasks endpoint, but really it's optional (to me) 14:51:53 bmbouter: i started to look into it as well, but so far just reading 14:52:00 all mixins etc are used by the /pulp/api/v3/tasks/ endpoint so everything will be tested if that is behaving correctly 14:52:02 ipanova: not sure I understand 14:52:21 I hand test it every day, I can post some simple instructions on how to do that as well on the PR in a few min 14:52:23 bmbouter, ok, thanks 14:52:35 bmbouter, that would be nice 14:52:38 also the galaxy_ng plugin uses this stuff too so it's getting independant testing there as well 14:52:50 I'll post some instructions here in a just a min or two 14:52:52 great 14:53:02 and push my new docs along w/ it 14:53:02 daviddavis: tldr, i am afraid to mass close all of them, especially the ones we have filed 14:53:50 ipanova: we can talk about it more on the list but I feel like it's easy for people to reopen their own issues if they're still valid 14:54:13 I want to label rbac in the user docs I write on monday as tech preview 14:54:19 daviddavis: whenever you open an issues, how often do you go through the backlog to see if there is one so you can re-open it? 14:54:23 as in users can try it, but Pulp is still not safe as a multi-user system 14:54:32 * bmbouter pauses rbac discussion 14:55:17 daviddavis: let's talk more on the list 14:55:27 ipanova: I usually search first but I am less concerned ATM about dupe issues than our large backlog 14:55:38 ipanova: ok 14:55:40 daviddavis: gotcha, ok 14:55:48 ipanova: for me if I took time writing one I remember it, and if I can't remember it's not worth the search (just my opinion) 14:56:05 * bmbouter resumes rbac convo 14:56:06 bmbouter: yeah i see your point as well 14:56:19 ipanova: i hear your conern too 14:56:49 bmbouter: thanks for adding instructions for the rbac 14:56:56 so basically the last major deliverable is user docs for rbac for pulpcore for 3.6 and I'm going to write those monday and put a tech-preview label indicating pulp still is not safe for multi-user 14:57:09 and users should continue using 'admin' as their only user on production systems 14:57:29 sounds good 14:57:53 last topic: 3.6 release announcement 14:58:12 * Please write draft content here: https://hackmd.io/xd5-j7xFSxSTJFn2cvO6Lg 15:02:04 #endmeeting 15:02:04 !end