15:01:03 #startmeeting Pulp Triage 2021-03-05 go/no-go for 3.11.0 release 15:01:03 #info ipanova has joined triage 15:01:03 !start go/no-go for 3.11.0 release 15:01:04 Meeting started Fri Mar 5 15:01:03 2021 UTC. The chair is ipanova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:04 The meeting name has been set to 'pulp_triage_2021-03-05_go/no-go_for_3.11.0_release' 15:01:04 ipanova: ipanova has joined triage 15:01:40 #info x9c4 has joined triage 15:01:40 !here 15:01:40 x9c4: x9c4 has joined triage 15:02:03 I just reviewed this and would like to get it considered for 3.11 as a tech preview https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1173 15:02:06 just fyi 15:02:10 https://pulp.plan.io/versions/174 15:02:25 daviddavis: nice 15:02:28 no objections 15:02:37 #info bmbouter has joined triage 15:02:37 !here 15:02:37 bmbouter: bmbouter has joined triage 15:02:44 #info ttereshc has joined triage 15:02:44 !here 15:02:44 ttereshc: ttereshc has joined triage 15:02:44 cool, not a huge deal if it doens't make it 15:02:57 i will put it for 3.11 for now 15:02:58 I'm ok w/ that if it merges in time 15:02:59 ? 15:03:43 Should we include https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8330 ? 15:03:47 we need to make sure it is marked as tech preview 15:03:56 #info ggainey has joined triage 15:03:56 !here 15:03:56 ggainey: ggainey has joined triage 15:04:08 #info gerrod has joined triage 15:04:08 !here 15:04:08 gerrod: gerrod has joined triage 15:04:13 It is needed to get https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8167 merged 15:05:06 agreed 15:05:16 then it needs to be marked 3.11 as well 15:05:19 coolio 15:05:19 Sorry i was a bit fast. 15:05:32 +1 to davids suggestion. 15:06:12 ok marjed https://pulp.plan.io/issues/7986 for 3.11 15:06:21 marked* 15:06:21 I also think we need to get this merged https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1162 15:06:53 can in go in the order of what is on the milestone first? 15:07:00 it feels a bit chaotic 15:07:01 sure any order you like 15:07:37 from what i see on the milestone this one is the only in assigned https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8322 15:07:41 rest is post 15:07:44 and just needs review 15:07:58 what is the state with https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8322? 15:08:34 bmbouter: ^ 15:08:47 I'm about to start it, it's not a big piece of work but realistically with me on pto on monday, and helping with review, and the fire drill from ansible today, I propose we move the release back 1 or 2 days, final move 15:09:40 ok, let;s keep this into account 15:10:00 is there any other outstanding work besides reviews? 15:10:25 all the work we do is outstanding and we do it outstandingly well 15:10:31 heh 15:10:32 lol 15:10:34 ha! tru 15:10:43 ha 15:10:53 x9c4: this is still at draft is that accurate https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1163 15:10:53 since this is already in post https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1162 and it is not in a draft state we can move this to 3.11 i have no objections 15:11:22 no. i'll undraft. 15:11:33 cool then that'll be an easy review I think 15:11:58 re 1162, if we deprecate ion 3.11, does it mean that we'll remove it in 3.12? 15:12:09 if yes, then we need to update the pr 15:12:40 I was thinking yes, but if it's not removed in 3.12 specifically I'm ok w/ that 15:12:43 ttereshc: agreed 15:12:46 It would not impose a real problem to keep the deprecation around one cycle longer. 15:12:50 but i can adjust. 15:13:12 it's not a problem I agree 15:13:16 +1 to adjust, let's follow out deprecation cycle policy. 15:13:25 s/out/our 15:13:27 I chose 3.12, because it was moved to that milestone. 15:13:43 yup, I think if you can adjust back to 3.11 and push it would be better overall 15:13:52 +1 I'll do 15:13:56 and x9c4 what you did made sense given how it was marked too 15:14:01 sweet 15:14:10 x9c4, and please create a task to remove it if it's not done yet 15:14:20 (with assigned milestone) 15:14:28 +1 great idea 15:14:29 k 15:14:40 ty 15:15:09 are we ready to decide on go-no go date? 15:15:32 actually 15:15:38 bmbouter: https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1149 this is marked for 3.11 15:15:54 can you review? 15:16:01 oh yeah, if we move it back I can review on tuesday+ (I can't today already overloaded) 15:16:10 if we can't then I think move to 3.12 15:16:13 i remember you had some concerns about this issue 15:16:26 ok 15:16:27 yeah I do and I want to review, I saw the ping just too much to do 15:17:15 alright, so with numbes of the PRs to review and 1 issue still to complete are we ok to move the release to march 10? 15:17:24 also one more thing, x9c4 I believe you have concerns for the distributor abstract plan that went to pulp-dev yesterday. totally understandable. 15:17:46 since that plan has required work for 3.11 compat plugins I think we have to discuss those concerns (and I'd like to) before we can publish 3.11 actually 15:19:32 My understanding from the last meeting was that we can do with proper renaming, and that way keep the deprecation cycle. 15:19:51 I guess i missed a detail. 15:20:28 bmbouter: will the outcome of this discussion push the release date even more? 15:20:29 you didn't it's that plan was determined to be very high effort 15:20:37 i believe we have agreed that we can push further anymore. 15:20:44 probably it will 15:21:08 I remember hearing the absolute last date was really the 16th? 15:21:25 I think a push of 2 days is probably all we need tho so that would be the 11th 15:21:43 can someone remind me of the date drivers again? 15:22:28 bmbouter: we also have 3.12that needs to go out before the end of this month 15:22:46 yup agreed and 2 weeks in between seemed ok to me at least 15:23:05 what can I say 3.11 isn't ready :/ 15:24:51 what about fips deadlines? 15:26:06 the rest of the fips work is to just get ALLOWED_CONTENT_CHECKSUMS working which no stakeholder is waiting on 15:26:21 the restof the fips work in pulpcore* 15:26:23 agreed and we'll be doing that in 3.12 or maybe even 3.13 15:26:33 the goal is 3.12 tho 15:26:38 ok so the only pressing matter is to get 3.12 out of the door by end of match 15:26:41 march* 15:27:32 that's my understanding, and that's a pretty firm deadline 15:27:37 let's push the 3.11 release to march 11 15:27:53 bmbouter: do you feel like you will be able to clarify all the concerns with x9c4? 15:28:07 about the distributor abstract plan 15:28:15 well it's not really me and him, it's a group discussion we were having with daley and daviddavis 15:28:28 dalley 15:28:30 daviddavis: is out anyway, unless this happens today 15:28:54 my main question is there will be enough time to have this discussions by march 11 release date 15:28:56 today is already full, I believe daviddavis stated (and please confirm) that he would defer to the group should he be unavailable 15:29:07 +1 15:29:37 we have 1 minute left 15:29:39 x9c4: the best thing to do would be to reply on the mailing list and dalley to set us up a 1 hour public call to disucss on tuesday for anyone 15:29:50 I think next wed for the go/nogo 15:29:53 agree. 15:30:03 we won't know enough on tueday to say for sure but we could on wed 15:30:08 yeah, +1 to one more go/no-go 15:30:14 +1 15:30:31 bmbouter: ack agree 15:30:40 i will schedule one more 15:31:01 10 minutes break and then triage? 15:31:04 x9c4, are you referring to the idea to use db_column? 15:31:34 fao89, +1 for a break 15:31:36 ty 15:31:47 I tried it, Django didn't care, because the field name was the same, and it seems to care about the field name rather than the actual name of the column in the DB 15:31:47 bmbouter: i am moving the tentative day to march 11 or directly to march 16? 15:31:53 dalley, yes, that too. 15:31:56 so it had the same problem 15:33:02 #endmeeting 15:33:02 !end