14:31:18 #startmeeting Pulp Triage 2021-03-11 go/no-go for 3.11.0 release 14:31:18 #info ipanova has joined triage 14:31:18 !start go/no-go for 3.11.0 release 14:31:19 Meeting started Thu Mar 11 14:31:18 2021 UTC. The chair is ipanova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:31:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:31:19 The meeting name has been set to 'pulp_triage_2021-03-11_go/no-go_for_3.11.0_release' 14:31:19 ipanova: ipanova has joined triage 14:31:30 #info ttereshc has joined triage 14:31:30 !here 14:31:30 ttereshc: ttereshc has joined triage 14:31:43 #info x9c4 has joined triage 14:31:43 !here 14:31:43 x9c4: x9c4 has joined triage 14:31:51 #info bmbouter has joined triage 14:31:51 !here 14:31:51 bmbouter: bmbouter has joined triage 14:31:53 #info ggainey has joined triage 14:31:53 !here 14:31:53 ggainey: ggainey has joined triage 14:32:19 looking at the current milestone we have 2 issues in post 14:32:54 1st https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1149 14:33:05 I will look at this one next 14:33:12 2nd https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1173 14:33:16 we'll need a second reviewer for 1149 also 14:33:21 2nd is being reviewed by dalley and me 14:34:10 bmbouter: i can review it as well 14:34:19 ty 14:34:26 the question is mostly about the approach, right? whether it suffice 14:34:46 I can try to take a look also today 14:34:59 ty 14:34:59 I'm out tomorrow and monday though so if you end up merging it I'm ok w/ that because it's in tech preview 14:35:13 I think regardless we'll end up touching it up more with 3.12 14:35:26 do we want to nominate anything else for this release? 14:36:06 if not then we can talk about the release day 14:36:11 nah, let's release it 14:36:16 i suggest not doing it on Friday 14:36:35 +1 to release 14:36:42 +1 to "o" 14:36:44 we also need to hear a go fro mthe isntaller team 14:36:45 concur - release, either M ot Tue 14:36:45 +1 to "go" 14:36:57 bmbouter: right 14:37:29 mikedep333: how does the installer team stand with regards to the 3.11 release? 14:38:16 we have done all the necessary adaptive changes for the 3.11 release. 14:38:22 awesome 14:38:34 excellentay 14:38:35 with this input, how about i will start the release process on monday 14:38:38 +1 14:38:46 There is a FIPS support PR that upgrades postgres from 9.6 to 10 on CentOS 7, but we can do that in an installer post-release. 14:39:08 mikedep333: I'm ok w/ that 14:39:22 great 14:39:30 one other fyi related to the 3.11 go/no go 14:39:32 +1 14:40:23 dalley: x9c4 and I needed to wrap up our plans for what to do about the "abstract distribution fields", we finalized the plan and we need to send the revision to pulp-dev today 14:40:31 we will do that 14:40:46 sounds good 14:40:58 this is 3.11 relavent because contrary to what was communicated before plugins should have their 3.11 compatibility releases *also* declare 3.12 support 14:41:07 aka the deprecation policy remains in tact 14:41:09 ah ok 14:41:26 ack 14:41:46 that would be great 14:42:10 anything else needs to be highlighted before the monday release? 14:42:33 bmbouter, I would still hesitate on that simply because there is not really that much harm in keeping the requirement "just in case" 14:43:05 but we can still communicate that it's OK to stand down in terms of making changes 14:43:26 well then we gotta talk more because I think the agreement was that the normal deprecation policy is in effect 14:44:42 the main concern I heard from x9c4 was loosing the deprecation policy, so if we do the "new plan" but don't also do that I'm not sure we've addressed it 14:44:57 losing :) english is hard 14:45:23 ok 14:45:26 I agree. It was mostly about the deprecation policy. 14:45:30 that's fine then 14:45:43 And thereby the fact that users can upgrade their systems smoothly. 14:45:53 i believe no matter that will be the outcome of this discussion the release happens anyway 14:46:01 s/that/what 14:46:35 we just need to properly communicate that 14:47:13 ipanova: agreed 14:47:25 x9c4: dalley let's continue our coordinatoin in #pulp-dev 14:47:36 ipanova: +1 to go on monday 14:47:46 ok so - are we ok with the Monday go + you guys will take care of sending the followup email to pulp-dev? 14:47:53 +1 14:48:33 fyi, there is one more change I would like to slip in, I want to add *args and **kwargs to all plugin-facing methods where we might want to add new parameters in the future 14:48:49 so that plugins can use them without breaking on older pulpcores 14:48:54 ipanova, ping me for reviews in case you'll start release in the morning 14:49:06 +1 14:49:21 dalley: ok 14:49:28 ttereshc: will do 14:49:48 great so i will send the email to the pulp-dev with the resolution of this meeting 14:49:52 ty everyone 14:50:02 * ggainey cheers wildly 14:50:08 #endmeeting 14:50:08 !end